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    Posted: Sep/23/2018 at 6:00pm
Just wondering how you guys go about removing/installing this type of brake shoe hold down spring? This is my first time working with this type, I'm used to the pin type. What I did to remove it was, I pushed a screwdriver through the spring until I got it to pop off of the clip.  However I can see it being very hard to re-install, especially the shoe that has the parking brake lever on it as it will be very hard to see.  Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks!!!
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Have to ask the vehicle?
I have seen something similar on a 1940's or 50's International pickup, I think?
On it a piece similar on the left went into the backing plate and the spring was fed through the shoe hole. You then had to take bent needle nose pliers to hook the spring. As memory serves, and it isn't great, you used a wad of chewing gum to hold the clip in the backing plate. Don't think that was in any TSM.
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It is a pain to use. I have these on my '69 Rambler wagon. If I remember right, it was a just some needle nose pliers, colorful language and just had to fight them.
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Sorry Trader, this is on my '69 Rambler and it sounds like the same type you saw on the IH pickup.  Here is an image of the fronts but it's the same for the rears. I was having some luck using a screwdriver through the spring and I'm thinking using a punch the size of the area where the hook is will make it even easier.  The punch will grab the tab on the spring and allow you to position the hook over the retaining tab in the backing plate.  In theory anyway.  Redright9, I still see colorful language coming in my future though Dead

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Yup, a wad of double-bubble provides the third hand you always need for this.

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Slide a flat-blade screwdriver through the spring.  Engage the blade on the hook and push, usually enough to get them in place.

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i made a tool from a 6" or so length of 3/16" or something steel rod. hammer the end flat, then cut a "V" notch in the end. fold the other end into a handle you can push on.

snake the forked tip inside the spring and press.  a cheap screwdriver might be a better choice to start with.

I SUPPOSE (SIGH) lol you could BUY one! the magic name is "beehive spring tool".

most of them are antiques! lol here's one though


BAD NEWS -- british cars use them! oh noes!

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http://www.ramblerLore.com

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A $1.29 Harbor Freight small screwdriver with a notch filed in the enter works great. Just have to be a size to easily fit inside. If you don't plan on doing brakes often forgo the notch. Makes things a little easier, but really not bad without it. Then you can use your better screwdrivers...
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There actually is a tool for redoing drum brakes that is kind of universal drum brake tool I've got. It is a big pliers type tool. The top end has a round loop on it that hooked, on the end . That is used to pull the big  springs over the fixed pin at the top of the drum backing plate. One end of the handle has a small u shaped horse shoe shaped end that works perfectly for those small drum brake hold down springs. I got it back in the day when I was taking a chassis & suspension class In college. I'd have to find it , take a picture of it and post it here. It is an odd looking tool and I've had it some thing like 40 years since back in the day. I've got a base 69  Javelin with small brake drum just like your pictures myself. LRDaum
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Originally posted by tufcj tufcj wrote:

Slide a flat-blade screwdriver through the spring.  Engage the blade on the hook and push, usually enough to get them in place.

Bob
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