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Timing cover seal size??? HELP (fixed pics)

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Originally posted by Buzzman72 Buzzman72 wrote:

Originally posted by rickyboada rickyboada wrote:




My timing cover was in really good shape and didn't want to get a new one with the horror stories on here. 

Engine is already all put together and complete just missing this last piece to get rolling  Ermm


ANYONE?? 




I'm pretty sure the dude was talking about a timing cover GASKET AND SEAL kit...not buying a new timing cover just for the seal.


Correct... here is the link to select which from the seal you want.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/american+motors,1979,amx,5.0l+304cid+v8,1002801,engine,crankshaft+seal,5604

I suggest finding other stuff to add, as you may need to make the shipping cost worth while.

Sometimes finding a not so discounted item will keep the shipping from being split. May have to juggle which item may save you in shipping cost when added.
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I know you guys mention it should be applied from the inside, this one seems to be applied from the outside as it has an outside lip, is this correct? 




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Unfortunately its not the National 710447 nor the Timken 472341 because those both have an outside diameter of 2.75 while my timing cover has an opening of 2.36 Wacko

Man this is frustrating lol as you guys can see in the pics, My beautiful engine is ready to go!!! (almost) lol
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Sorry it don't work for me... photo puke is broken.

Use imgbb.com, you don't need an account. Just upload and create full bbcodes from the drop down menu after selecting all the images you uploaded. Then copy once created in the output box and paste them in a reply to this thread.

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Thanks,

Finally got the pictures to work!! 

Hope you guys can help me figure this out 



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It is the harmonic balancer that seals to that seal and not the crank snout...  Are you checking to the balancer???


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Check to make sure your balancer has no wear ring where the seal rides.

If there is a wear ring, you will need the optional sleeve to seal properly.

Here is the link.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/american+motors,1979,amx,5.0l+304cid+v8,1002801,engine,harmonic+balancer+repair+sleeve,5408
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From the pics, I believe I see the rubber lip from the original seal, which is installed from the inside.  Push on that lip with a screwdriver, if it flexes, it's your old seal. The paint may be so thick that it's hiding the edges of the original seal.

Bob
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Edited by tufcj - Nov/14/2018 at 1:18pm
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Sure looks to me like you are going to have to dis-assemble the front of the engine...
Remove the Timing Chain Cover from the block...
And agree, remove the Old Seal from the INSIDE of the Timing Chain Cover
that appears from the pictures to still be in there maybe,
then install the New Seal from the INSIDE of the Timing Chain Cover,
and re-assemble the Timing Chain Cover and the Front of the AMC V-8 Engine...

Oh, and as someone else pointed out BE SURE the OIL SLINGER is on the Crank
BEFORE putting the Timing Chain Cover back on the block !

And this is wayyyy out of context, may want to do some little
Oil Drain Back Mods to the inside of the  Timing Chain Cover
where it nestles up so close to the front main bearing cap
while it is off of the block... ( oh boy, can-o-worms )


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