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Grinch365
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Posted: Nov/16/2019 at 11:16pm |
Hey guys, I just bought a 1965 Rambler 770 Classic with the v8 and I'm trying to get the brakes working. I'm working on the rear drum brakes and the passenger side is missing what I would call the "brake strut bar".
It is steel and about 7" long by 1" wide and runs horizontally just under the brake cylinder. It is "forked" on both ends and has a oval spring on one end. I tried to post a picture of it, but can't seem to figure that out. (do I need 30 posts before I can put pics in ?) It looks kinda like this... ]======[ None of the brake hardware kits I've seen carry this "bar". Any idea where I might get one ? Are they the same for all AMC 20 rear brake setups ? I have the 10"x1.75" shoes. Maybe I can find one in a jeep in the local junkyard ? Any help would be appreciated. This is the start of a long road with this car... -Pat |
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Ollie
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The bar you are referring to is for the emergency brakes. It holds the brakes apart when you pull the E cable that is attached at the bottom. It is not supplied in any hardware kit and you will have to find an original part.
Having AMC Fun, Ollie
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george w
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Can you determine if your car's brakes are Wagner or Bendix ? A TSM will tell you and likely other members here will know as well. In any event the piece you need is common to the rear brake system of any other brand car that uses the same brake manufacturer. Between those here on the Forum and the numerous AMC vendors you should be able to source that piece that's part of the parking brake system.
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6768rogues
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If you have the other one perhaps you could post its dimensions. If all else fails, it would be an easy part to make using the other one as a pattern.
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Grinch365
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It looks like I might have found one. I ordered it on Amazon (part number 16751.06). Hopefully its the same, or I can modify it to match the one I have.
Thanks guys.
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tomj
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it's not a wear part/replacement part. How'd it get lost? Wasn't in there when you disassembled? Lol (not funny) crazy stuff happens over the years... helped out a friend with a 62 Classic, that had issues with a rear window winder. Turns out the mechanism wasn't even bolted in, it was all lashed together with baling wire. It blocked the door lock so we had to take door panel out with the door closed. Point is, people do dumb inexplicable s**t to cars! As mentioned the TSM will tell you bendix or Wagner. also is it 9" or 10" brakes. (Measure the ID of the drum, round to the nearest whole inch.) There is also a spring that goes on that e-brake rod. It's an anti-rattle spring, like a regular wound spring but flattened into a rounded rectangle. I would carefully inspect and compare against the TSM or even online drawings and make sure you aren't missing other parts. That seems likely to me. Those woudl be junkyard parts. I have a new religion I'm trying to convert everyone to! Join me! In throwing out all old brake springs! I used to re-use springs that I'd deemed "OK", but lately I'm finding that to be a worse and worse idea. What was OK at 20 years is a bad idea at 50. I now re-use them when the paint is intact, and not one single winding has a gap from the others, and the ends are not buggered. IOTW, other than a tension test (no specs, can't do) it better look new and perfect. New brake springs are CHEAP. Like under a buck a piece. In the last month I've spent a couple hours researching brake springs (I told you it was a religion) and can give you part numbers for 9" springs I'm fairly confident are correct (eg. i'm using them and doing so fixed all my remaining scuff and funny-feel problems). I could probably puzzle out 10" parts and give you a high-probability number, that if wrong, will set you back under $10. |
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Jmerican
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A new religion. Preach!
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Be careful. You're stepping on the toes of a cult called Rambler mentality. You may need to change your identity and go into a witness protection program.
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gtoman_us
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With you on that Tom. I only buy new springs and bought up a load on Rockauto clearance. Several box kits for $1.27 each box.
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Grinch365
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I was able to get the right e-brake strut bar from Amazon. For 10" brakes the part number is 16751.06.
It matches the one I have (from the other side) perfectly.
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