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    Posted: Apr/10/2010 at 1:20pm
Urban legend has it that there is a SS/AMX in northwest ohio around the toledo area.  I have taken drives around neighborhoods looking in open garages and talking to car guys about any information they might have. Of course I have had no luck, but I did find a rebuilt 390 that was done 20 years ago and never ran.  The owner has my number when and if he decides to sell.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tbenvie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/09/2010 at 4:01pm
So far there have been 40 of the 52 cars found and with a known location, as well as the prototype.

King Nash, Chuck's Luck, Beachy Bros (known), Camriser, Greens Rambler, Stowe Engineering, Transcona (destroyed) and a car from Montreal stolen when almost new. There is a question of the origin of Uncle Sam. That is 51, meaning one not accounted for at this time. Possible Moni Moni/Pauley's pride may be one of the missing cars or still yet another. I was told there is one in NY and another in Mich. (Camriser?).

Anyone have any more info to share?  Any pictures? Anything?

Thanks to all who helped.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tbenvie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/09/2010 at 3:32pm
Anyone have any info on this race?  I'd love to have video!




Anyone know of Brad Burton?

How about this car?

Caprock AMC was in Lubbock, Texas and owned by Ralph Carlisle.


Another I want video of:


Looking for any info on the race cars.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mountainmoron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/09/2010 at 1:46pm
I don't know any of the answers to the questions... but the photos are totally awesome, Tom! Thanks for posting them here.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tbenvie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/09/2010 at 11:38am
Posted a lot more pictures on the SS/AMX thread.  Still no answers on the above questions?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tbenvie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/30/2009 at 9:07pm
I am looking for info on the car that was in the Automobile Quarterly article from 1981. It was owned by Dale Turman and was a 70 body conversion with a 69 dash. 70 390 emblems in rear quarter. Anybody know anything about this car? Which one is it?



I am also looking for another car.  FOUND INFO!!


And notice the 70 taillights on Shahan's car.  Any pictures of the Drag-On Lady with a 70 nose?

And you gotta love this red, white, and blue car:



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Post Options Post Options   Quote tbenvie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/30/2009 at 8:51pm
Jeff-Thanks for checking this thread out. The McGroder car is #13 and supposedly never raced.  I don't know much about the history of the car.  Anyone have any details?
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Originally posted by SuperStockAMX

Then by that example a SC/Rambler is nothing more than a Rambler that has been modified and prices should reflect as such. 
The discussion here seems to be about provenance and value. If it is not about provenance and value, then this would be a waste of 14+ pages. That being said, I would have a hard time coming up with a list of non-factory drag cars (cloned) that can compete against the documented & authentic version. 
The proof's are in the sale prices. 
 
I agree that the SC/Rambler is nothing more than an modified Rogue.  What else could anyone possibly suggest it is other than what it is, a modified Rogue????
 
Value will always be determined by demand and of late more people want SS AMXs and SC/Ramblers than the supply can support thus the prices have gone higher on both.  Lots of us recall SS AMXs for sale in the $3500 - $7500 range in the late 70s and early 80s but that was when demand and available funds were both painfully low so the cars were not in high demand.  Heck, there was a time when $500 - $1000 would buy a perfectly good SC/Rambler during the gas crisis of the 70s when there was almost NO demand for a gas guzzler like the SC/Rambler. And now if supply miraculously and suddently exceeded demand then prices woud come down. 
 
As for non factory cloned drag cars not sure what you mean there.  Anyone with the right knowledge and bank account can build a kick ass engine and modify the chasis to turn just about any ET you want so I fail to see the point of your comment.  The SS AMX and the SC/Rambler have nothing in them that can't be duplicated rather it is just very cool that they, and cars like them for other manufacturers, came that way from the factory.  On the other hand, the cast pistons and model 20 rear ends in both the SS AMX and the SC/Rambler were prone to self destruction and LOTS of both cars blew up the engines and rear ends and also had the cams changed out to a more aggressive profile so even on both of those cars the factory setup left something to be desired.
 
I agree both are very cool cars and the SS AMX in particular is a rare bird that any AMC enthusiast/collector should be proud to own.  In the grand scheme of things however, both cars started life as a regular old production car that anyone could buy so likewise, the standard versions of either car can still be converted to be the same as the few remaining Hurst modified versions out there today. 


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Post Options Post Options   Quote PHAT69AMX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/30/2009 at 8:48am
Thanks for elaborating on purpose of PCV.
I should not have speculated.  Embarrassed 
 
Holley #34-2 = replacement dual inlet center hung float bowls with
no secondary accel pump feature that can be plumbed from either side.
They should be close to "correct" replacements for a List #4584 carburetor.
AMC SS/AMX Tech Bulletin #1 mentions jetting in the #4584 carbs
as #71 Primary & #77 Secondary.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SuperStockAMX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/30/2009 at 12:41am
I forgot to mention the issue on the PCV valve on Adkin's SS/B AMX. It helps with ring seal. It works in conjunction with the pan-e-vac system. Too be effective the engine must be sealed very well at all gasket points. Vacuum pumps are not allowed in the SS class. It's not to add CFM to the carbs. 
Don't really want to get off topic but there was a few posts about that issue. 
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